Showing posts with label AirBus. Show all posts
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Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Boeing gears up to deliver its first 747-8 passenger version

Boeing will make first delivery of the passenger version of its upgraded and overdue 747-8 on February 28 to an unidentified VIP customer, the world's second-largest planemaker said on Tuesday. The company said in an email that it will mark the delivery of the airplane dubbed the Intercontinental with an event near Seattle featuring program leaders and test pilots. The first airline set to receive an Intercontinental is Germany's Lufthansa, which has ordered 20.

The freighter version of the 747-8 was first delivered in October, capping a development delay of about two years. Boeing, which competes with Airbus for sales, has 36 orders for the passenger plane on its books with nine attributed to unidentified VIPs. The Intercontinental can seat 467 passengers and lists at more than $330 million.

Monday, February 13, 2012

EU's carbon tax for airliners fuels concern

Global planemaker Airbus joined a chorus of concern that a European scheme to charge airlines for carbon emissions risks triggering a full-blown trade war, with implications for plane deals and even Europe's crippling sovereign debt crisis. The EU's Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS), introduced on January 1, has drawn howls of protest from airlines around the world, with China banning its carriers from taking part. The escalating row comes on the eve of a China-EU summit in Beijing, with the EU looking to China to dip into its huge foreign exchange reserves to help the eurozone tackle a debt build-up that threatens its economic stability.

Airbus Chief Executive Tom Enders said he was increasingly concerned at the potential fall-out if tensions are not defused. "I am very worried about the consequences of that. What started out as a solution for the environment has become a source of potential trade conflict and that should be a worry for all of us," he told an aviation conference on Monday ahead of the Singapore Airshow. China is a strategic market for the world's two big planemakers, as it coordinates purchases centrally and regularly places orders with Airbus and Boeing in batches of 100 or more to coincide with high-level political contacts.

Chinese domestic air traffic quadrupled in the last decade and is expected to keep growing at more than 7 percent a year up to 2030, according to Airbus research, and Boeing predicts China will be the second-biggest market for new aircraft behind the United States between 2011 and 2030. China last year delayed the final signing of a deal for 10 A380 superjumbos worth $4 billion for Hong Kong Airlines in a signal of its displeasure over the EU plans, and in the mid-1990s, it refused to buy French products such as wheat and Airbus planes in retaliation for France selling fighters and frigates to Taiwan.

Last week, Beijing banned its airlines from joining the ETS without its permission, and threatened to take unspecified measures to defend itself against the scheme, which levies charges for carbon emissions on flights in and out of Europe. Foreign governments argue Brussels is exceeding its legal jurisdiction by calculating the carbon cost over the whole flight, not just Europe. Non-EU airlines say the levy is discriminatory. Increasingly, governments and the EU's executive European Commission are looking to the U.N.'s International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) to find a global scheme that curbs airline emissions.

Singapore Airlines CEO Goh Choon Phong said opposition to the scheme was based on the way it is applied. "I was quoting the example of us flying non-stop from Singapore all the way to Europe. We get charged the whole journey, when somebody who could fly passengers to an intermediate point, and from there go to Europe, ends up paying much less," he told the same aviation conference in Singapore. Andrew Herdman, director general of the Association of Asia Pacific Airlines, said any European policy that alienates the United States, China, Russia, India and three dozen other countries "is simply not going to work." "The risk for the airlines if this generates into a tit-for-tat trade war, is that airlines will be caught in a cross-fire from both sides," he said.

Monday, September 26, 2011

Dreamliner becomes a reality

Boeing delivered its first 787 jet on Sunday. It's been a long time coming. The new jet, which was supposed to be flying passengers three years ago, has been delayed by production and design problems. But now it's here, and airlines expect it to offer travelers much more comfort, open up new routes and provide significant fuel savings. The first one goes to Japan's All Nippon Airways, which has been printing the 787 logo and "We Fly 1st" on its business cards for years. Airlines love the jet, which Boeing calls the Dreamliner. They've ordered more than 800, well above levels for previous new jets. "A lot of carriers are betting that this is going to be a winner," says George Hamlin, president of Hamlin Transportation Consulting in Fairfax, Va.

Instead of the usual aluminum skin, most of the 787 is covered in carbon fiber, basically a high-tech plastic that is strong but lightweight. Military planes and portions of other jetliners have used that material for years, but this is the first time so much has been used on an airliner. The new material brings improvements that passengers should notice. Its strength allows windows to be bigger and higher, so passengers don't have to hunch over to see the horizon. Electronic dimming replaces pull-down shades. That should mean you'll no longer be blinded when the guy next to you falls asleep with the shade up. Finally, the cabin is pressurized to the equivalent of 6,000 feet, instead of the usual 8,000 feet. That means air pressure will be closer to what passengers are used to on the ground. And without corrosion-prone aluminum skin, the humidity can be kept higher. Those two changes should reduce dry noses and throats.

All Nippon plans to begin flying the 787 from Tokyo to Okayama-Hiroshima on Nov. 11. The first international route will be Tokyo to Frankfurt starting in January. The first US customer is United Continental Holdings Inc., which will get its first 787s next year and plans to fly them between Houston and Auckland, New Zealand, and Houston and Lagos, Nigeria. Those are good examples of "thin routes" that airlines say the 787 will be good for - routes for which there is regular demand that won't fill a larger plane. The 787's size, fuel efficiency and long range should allow airlines to turn a profit on those routes. The jet will be as much as 20 percent more fuel-efficient than planes it replaces. Its efficiency was a nice perk when Boeing first proposed the 787 in its current form in 2003. Now it's essential for airlines dealing with high fuel costs.

Building an all-new plane like the 787 is a massive undertaking. Delays stacked up. Boeing was hit with an eight-week strike in 2008. It had to reinforce the spot where the 787's wings meet the fuselage. In November, the company had to delay the plane further after an electrical fire forced a landing during a test flight. Boeing expects to deliver a combined 25 to 30 of the 787s and new 747-8 this year. To meet the high demand. Boeing has set an ambitious goal of building 10 per month by the end of 2013. No one has ever made a large plane that fast. Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace analyst at the Teal Group, thinks Boeing will miss that goal because the company hasn't smoothed out its production process fully. It's also not clear when the 787 will make money. Boeing already took a $2.5 billion charge in 2009 on the program, and it owes additional money to customers for the late deliveries. Boeing executives have said they will announce when the jet will be profitable after the first one is delivered.

The 787 list price runs between $185 million and $218 million. Discounts on new jets are common, though. Aboulafia says it's not clear how steep the discounts offered by Boeing were to lock in all the orders. Boeing rival Airbus hopes to soon launch its new A350, also made with a significant amount of carbon composites. A successful 787 will put pressure on Airbus to meet its fuel-efficiency goals, and to deliver the plane on time.


Saturday, September 17, 2011

Airbus sees Asia as recession buffer

Demand for new planes from China and Asia will provide Airbus with a buffer for growth in the event of a global recession resulting from Europe's debt crisis, the company's chief operating officer said on Thursday.  "So far we have 1,000 net orders (from Europe) at the end of August and the air traffic is still good," Fabrice Bregier said.  "However, we might well expect some adjustments in the future. This is very different from 2008-2009. In this case we see a problem of some European states with excessive debt but the real economy is very good," he said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Dalian.  The euro area debt crisis has contributed to increasing concerns in financial markets that the world economy could slip into another recession. Bregier said it may be a "challenge" to avoid another recession that would bring about less air.


Demand for new planes from China and Asia will provide Airbus with a buffer for growth in the event of a global recession resulting from Europe's debt crisis, the company's chief operating officer said on Thursday. "So far we have 1,000 net orders (from Europe) at the end of August and the air traffic is still good," Fabrice Bregier said. "However, we might well expect some adjustments in the future. This is very different from 2008-2009. In this case we see a problem of some European states with excessive debt but the real economy is very good," he said on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Dalian.

The euro area debt crisis has contributed to increasing concerns in financial markets that the world economy could slip into another recession.
Bregier said it may be a "challenge" to avoid another recession that would bring about less air traffic and slower growth for airlines. But he said he expected growth in Asia and especially China to provide a suitable growth buffer for Airbus. "If there is a big recession there will be less traffic and so the airlines will not generate the cash to buy new aircraft," Bregier said. "Now we are in the global market, so we don't sell exclusively to Europe or America and in our order book our biggest share comes from Asia, and China plays a big role."
Bregier said Airbus will deliver its first superjumbo to mainland carrier China Southern Airlines in a few weeks and the aircraft will be operational in November.

Boeing said on September 7 that China will need 5,000 commercial aircraft worth USD$600 billion over the next 20 years, a 25 percent increase on the company's previous estimate. Airbus, which currently has a 45 percent market share in China, is due to publish its global forecasts on September 20. Bregier said the firm's market share in China will exceed 50 percent in the next few years.
"We plan to deliver about 90 aircraft in China next year and about 100 this year," he said. In June, China placed an order for 88 Airbus A320 planes putting aside a bubbling trade row with Europe over a proposed emissions scheme as it sought to fuel economic growth. The deal, worth USD$7.5 billion at list price and with deliveries scheduled for 2012-15, was signed by China Aviation Supplies and Industrial Commercial Bank of China.

Although China plans to start competing with Airbus and Boeing by building its own narrow-body passenger jets from the second half of this decade, it has ordered large numbers of Airbus A320s and Boeing 737s to feed traffic growth.
Airbus began assembling planes for the Chinese market at a factory in Tianjin, outside Beijing, in 2009. Bregier said he expects to make inroads into the China market with sales of the A380 superjumbo aircraft. "I think they (other Chinese airlines) will be very interested in A380s when they see the success of China Southern... We expect other top players in China to progressively order A380s," he said. "The trend is clear, China will need bigger aircraft in the future and so we think with the A380, we really have a trump".traffic and slower growth for airlines. But he said he expected growth in Asia and especially China to provide a suitable growth buffer for Airbus. "If there is a big recession there will be less traffic and so the airlines will not generate the cash to buy new aircraft," Bregier said. "Now we are in the global market, so we don't sell exclusively to Europe or America and in our order book our biggest share comes from Asia, and China plays a big role."

Bregier said Airbus will deliver its first superjumbo to mainland carrier China Southern Airlines in a few weeks and the aircraft will be operational in November.  Boeing said on September 7 that China will need 5,000 commercial aircraft worth USD$600 billion over the next 20 years, a 25 percent increase on the company's previous estimate. Airbus, which currently has a 45 percent market share in China, is due to publish its global forecasts on September 20. Bregier said the firm's market share in China will exceed 50 percent in the next few years.  "We plan to deliver about 90 aircraft in China next year and about 100 this year," he said. In June, China placed an order for 88 Airbus A320 planes putting aside a bubbling trade row with Europe over a proposed emissions scheme as it sought to fuel economic growth.

The deal, worth USD$7.5 billion at list price and with deliveries scheduled for 2012-15, was signed by China Aviation Supplies and Industrial Commercial Bank of China. Although China plans to start competing with Airbus and Boeing by building its own narrow-body passenger jets from the second half of this decade, it has ordered large numbers of Airbus A320s and Boeing 737s to feed traffic growth. Airbus began assembling planes for the Chinese market at a factory in Tianjin, outside Beijing, in 2009. Bregier said he expects to make inroads into the China market with sales of the A380 superjumbo aircraft. "I think they (other Chinese airlines) will be very interested in A380s when they see the success of China Southern... We expect other top players in China to progressively order A380s," he said. "The trend is clear, China will need bigger aircraft in the future and so we think with the A380, we really have a trump".

AirFrance-KLM splits orders worth $12 billion between Airbus and Boeing

Air France-KLM has split a $12 billion order for long-range jets following a year-long competition, announcing plans to buy 25 Boeing 787 Dreamliners and 25 Airbus A350s. The move is part of a plan to renew the fleet of Europe's largest airline and the order could rise to 110 of the next-generation aircraft including 60 more options. EADS unit Airbus said it expected to receive 35 of these. Air France-KLM shares opened up more than 1 percent before slipping 0.5 percent to 6.035 euros by 4:26 a.m. ET. Shares in Airbus parent EADS were down 1.1 percent.

The deal follows months of politically sensitive negotiations during which the airline appeared to be pulled between pressure from French politicians to protect jobs at Toulouse-based Airbus and its own differences with Airbus over what caused the 2009 mid-Atlantic crash of an Airbus jet. The airline believes pilots have been wrongly blamed. Air France-KLM has said it ignored calls from French politicians to favor Airbus, but in a sign of frosty relations it snubbed the usual practice of endorsing the Airbus part of the deal in the planemaker's press release.

Boeing is delivering its first 787 Dreamliner to Japanese airline All Nippon Airways next week after three years of production delays as it switched from aluminum to lightweight carbon composites. Airbus plans to deliver its similar A350 mid-decade after earlier delays in the design. Air France-KLM said it aimed to operate 73 of the 250-300 seat aircraft through 2024, including 43 Airbus A350-900 and 30 Boeing 787-9 models. The first Boeing 787-9 will enter into service with KLM in 2016, and the first Airbus A350-900 with Air France in 2018. "Later, both airlines will operate both types of aircraft," the carrier said in a statement. The airlines merged in 2004 but maintain separate networks.

Final details of the order are still being negotiated. The firm part of the order for 50 aircraft is worth $6.7 billion to Airbus and $5.5 billion to Boeing, according to list prices. Airlines usually obtain significant discounts. Air France-KLM indicated in June it would follow United Airlines in splitting the order for the new generation of aircraft between Airbus and Boeing. The plane order guarantees business for Britain's Rolls-Royce (LSE:RR.L - News) to provide power for the A350-900, for which it makes the only engines currently on offer. But industry sources say rival General Electric is front-runner to power the Boeing 787s, for which it competes with Rolls-Royce. Air France traditionally buys long-range engines from the U.S. company.

Saturday, September 10, 2011

FedEx may buy more freighters

FedEx Corp may buy about 50 wide-body freighters from Boeing Co. and Airbus to update its cargo airline fleet, an industry source familiar with the matter said on Thursday. FedEx is considering Boeing's 767, which lists at $167.7 million, and Airbus's A330, which lists at $203.6 million, according to the source. Memphis, Tennessee-based FedEx runs the world's largest cargo airline and No. 2 package delivery company. Its potential freighter purchases were first reported on Wednesday by Bloomberg.

FedEx has been updating its fleet to add more fuel-efficient aircraft. "As a matter of policy, we don't discuss market rumors or speculation," FedEx spokesman Jim McCluskey said on Thursday. Airbus declined to comment, and Boeing had no immediate comment. According to the company's website, the FedEx Express division has 688 aircraft made by various companies, including Boeing and Airbus. FedEx shares were off 1.5 percent at $75.01 in midafternoon trading.

Sunday, July 10, 2011

AirAsia extend Airbus order by another 100 A320neo

AirAsia will buy an extra 100 Airbus A320neo jets, taking its record-breaking order to 300 planes, a source said, a deal that would make the Malaysia-based low-cost airline one of the world's largest carriers. AirAsia and Airbus announced an USD$18.2 billion deal for 200 planes at the Paris Air Show last month, shattering aviation records for the largest ever airline order. The additional order takes the list price of the contract to a staggering USD$27 billion. The bumper order highlights Airbus's growing lead over Boeing and throws the spotlight on AirAsia's aggressive growth plans at a time when high oil prices and an uncertain global economy are clouding the outlook for travel demand. Analysts expect the extended order to drive AirAsia's expansion as it competes with short-haul carriers such as India's IndiGo, Singapore's Tiger Airways and Australia's Jetstar in the Asia-Pacific region, the fastest growing in the world. "AirAsia's last replacement order was in 2007/2008. These new orders are long overdue so it's not an aggressive order," said Kunal Sinha, an aerospace expert with the Frost & Sullivan consultancy. "AirAsia's new fleet is to be used mostly to link Southeast Asia to India and China. By 2015, Southeast Asia will have open skies so you have to have a growth plan."

Boeing on Wednesday said it expected 33,500 new planes to be delivered by 2030, driven by growth in India and elsewhere in Asia. AirAsia plans to list its operations in Thailand and Indonesia this year as it expands in those markets and is in talks to open a hub in Singapore, its chief executive Tony Fernandes has said. Like the previous order, the additional 100 planes would also use CFM International engines, the source with direct knowledge of the deal said, declining to be identified because the deal is not public yet. The source said AirAsia would receive a discount for the entire order, but did not give further details. AirAsia's regional head for corporate finance and treasury Aireen Omar said, "We ordered 200 and so far there are no changes." An Airbus spokesman said the manufacturer would not comment on commercial discussions with customers that were confidential. AirAsia, which flies to 63 destinations in more than 20 countries, has 90 planes currently, almost all single-aisle Airbus A320s. Besides the 300 Airbus A320neo deal, it has another 75 Airbus aircraft already on order. "Though we look aggressive, we have expanded very cautiously," Fernandes said this week. "But I have always said this airline is worth at least 500 aircraft."

According to International Air Transport Association (IATA) data, United Continental had the largest passenger fleet of 737 planes at the end of 2010, followed by Delta Air Lines with 722, American Airlines with 618 and Lufthansa with 427. Non-IATA member Southwest Airlines, the only low-cost carrier currently in the top five, has around 550 planes. "AirAsia had the first-mover advantage and it continues to stay ahead of the game by ordering fuel-efficient planes and keeping the size growing," said an aviation analyst with a Malaysian investment bank who declined to be identified due to company policy. "But the key risk is if expansion plans do not succeed. The Malaysian base is fairly saturated so if the other markets do not grow or cannot take off because of protectionism or other factors, then they will find themselves having to manage a lot of aircraft," the analyst said.

Fernandes said the A320neo purchases would be funded by debt and cash flow as staggered deliveries begin in 2016. "We're buying the planes now, we don't pay for it all now. They become due in 2016 so we're just paying some deposits now which is not erroneous at all to our balance sheet." The A320neo is a version of Airbus's best-selling 150-seat passenger jet offering fuel savings with new engines from 2015. The huge orders for the single-aisle plane at the Paris Air Show have piled pressure on rival Boeing to come up with a newer version of its 737 workhorse. Fernandes said his airline's growth was closely twinned with Airbus. "We have a fantastic relationship with Airbus," he said. "They are much more than just suppliers to us. I credit them tremendously with our growth and I want to be more than just a customer of theirs."

It is now part of aviation industry lore that Fernandes asked Airbus chief salesman Joe Leahy to come on to the dance floor of a Paris nightclub before signing the A320neo deal. "As part of a family we do some crazy things together," the 47-year-old Malaysian millionaire said. Asian budget airlines placed a record USD$42 billion in plane orders during the Paris Air Show, illustrating their high expectations for travel in the world's fastest growing market and also triggering worries some may not survive. Many of the no-frills carriers such as AirAsia and Indigo aim to more than double their fleets to power rapid growth, partly at the expense of full-service airlines such as Cathay Pacific and Singapore Airlines. Worldwide passenger demand is expected to rise 4.4 percent over the next year with the Asia-Pacific region growing faster at 6.4 percent, according to IATA, which represents the majority of airlines operating in the USD$598 billion industry. The Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation, an independent aviation market research provider, said low-cost carriers accounted for 16 percent of the market in terms of seats within Asia Pacific last year, up from 6 percent in 2005. Their market share is set to rise 2 percentage points annually to about 26 percent in 2015, it said.

Wednesday, June 29, 2011

China signs for 88 new Airbus 320 aircrafts

China placed an order for 88 Airbus A320 planes on Tuesday, putting a bubbling trade row with Europe over a proposed emissions scheme aside as it tries to to fuel economic growth. Airbus said on Tuesday it had signed the deal with China Aviation Supplies and Industrial Commerce Bank of China. The deal, worth USD$7.5 billion at list prices and with deliveries scheduled for 2012-15, was signed by Airbus president Tom Enders and CAS President Li Hai during a visit to Germany by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao. The visit came days after industry sources said China had delayed the high-profile announcement of a USD$3.8 billion order for 10 Airbus A380 superjumbo jets at the Paris Air Show to protest over European Union emissions trading rules. Under plans to include international aviation in its carbon market from next year, the EU would require all airlines flying to Europe to buy permits for each tonne of carbon dioxide they emit above a certain cap.

While China continues to put the brakes on lucrative orders of European wide-body aircraft, industry analysts said it seemed as though China was pulling back from a full-blown trade spat to protect economic growth. Although it plans to start competing with Airbus and Boeing by building its own narrow-body passenger jets from the second half of this decade, China is still ordering large volumes of Airbus A320s and Boeing 737s to feed huge traffic growth. Ordering A320s is also in the country's interest as Airbus began assembling planes for the Chinese market at a factory in Tianjin, outside Beijing, in 2009. While China typically schedules aircraft orders to coincide with political visits, the deals can be difficult to break down. In November 2010, China and France announced 102 Airbus orders during a visit to Paris by President Hu Jintao, but the manufacturer said only 66 involved new contracts. In January, China announced final approval for 200 Boeing aircraft worth USD$19 billion in a boost for President Barack Obama as Hu visited the United States. Again, analysts said the deals had been in the works and accounted for by investors for some time.

Tuesday's orders were all new and firm, Airbus claimed.

Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Paris air show aircraft orders' list

The orders confirmed by Airbus and Boeing as it stands at Paris air show.

Company Firm Value Provisional Value

Airbus 312 $30.2 bln 318 $29.5 bln

Boeing 47 $7.5 bln 94 $14.9 bln



Last year at Farnborough Airshow, Airbus unveiled net new orders for 130 planes worth over $13 billion, and Boeing 103 new orders worth over $10 billion.

Between them, they racked up a combined 176 provisional orders worth over $19 billion



AIRBUS ORDERS BY CUSTOMER:
FIRM ORDERS

Company No of aircraft Type Value

LAN 20 A320neo $1.8 bln

IndiGo 30 A320 $2.5 bln

IndiGo 150 A320neo $13.7 bln

TransAsia 6 A321neo $0.6 bln

Air Lease Corp 11 A330 $2.4 bln

Air Lease Corp 1 A321 $0.1 bln

SAS 30 A320neo $2.7 bln

GECAS 60 A320neo $5.5 bln

Saudi Arabian 4 A330 $0.9 bln



PROVISIONAL ORDERS

Company No of aircraft Type Value

Alafco 30 A320neo $2.7 bln

Republic 40 A320neo $3.6 bln

Republic 40 A319neo $3.4 bln

Avianca 18 A320 $1.5 bln

Avianca 33 A320neo $3.0 bln

Alafco 6 A350-900 $1.6 bln

Garuda 15 A320 $1.3 bln

Garuda 10 A320neo $0.9 bln

JetBlue 40 A320neo $3.6 bln

CIT 50 A320neo $4.6 bln

Air Lease Corp 36 A320neo $3.3 bln



BOEING ORDERS BY CUSTOMER:

FIRM ORDERS

Company No of aircraft Type Value

*Malaysian 10 737-800 $0.8 bln

*Aeroflot 8 777-300ER $2.3 bln

Norwegian 3 787 $0.6 bln

Norwegian 15 737-800 $1.2 bln

Mongolian 1 767-300ER $0.16bln

Mongolian 2 737-800 $0.16bln

Unidentified 2 747-8 $0.6 bln

*Qatar Airways 6 777-300ER $1.7 bln * - orders were previously in Boeing order book but customer was unidentified



PROVISIONAL ORDERS

Company No of aircraft Type Value

UTair Aviation 7 737-900ER $0.6 bln

UTair Aviation 33 737-800 $2.7 bln

GECAS 8 777-300ER $2.3 bln

GECAS 2 747-8F $0.6 bln

Unidentified 15 747-8 $4.8 bln

Air Lease Corp 20 737 $1.6 bln

Air Lease Corp 5 777 $1.4 bln

Air Lease Corp 4 787-9 $0.9 bln

Monday, June 20, 2011

Big orders help AirBus

Airbus said on Monday it had won an order for 60 narrow-body A320neo planes worth $5.1 billion at list prices from the commercial aircraft leasing and financing arm of General Electric. Analysts expect narrow-body planes, the backbone of fast-growing budget airlines, to be a key battleground for orders between Europe's Airbus and U.S. rival Boeing at the biennial air show. Airbus believes it has the upper hand with the A320neo, whose more efficient engines save airlines 15 percent in fuel costs, according to the company. Engine maker Pratt & Whitney boss David Hess said on Monday he expected an astounding amount of demand for the A320neo. Sources close to the matter said Airbus was also likely to report an order on Monday for 30 A320neos worth about $2.4 billion at list prices from Scandinavian airline SAS.

Qatar Airways said it hoped to conclude a deal this week to buy A320neo planes as well. Boeing conceded it might lose some customers while it makes a decision about whether to re-engine or redesign its competing 737 narrow-body plane, although it was confident of winning out over the longer term. It also upstaged Airbus with successes in other plane sizes and booked the first big order of the show for six 777-300ER wide-body jets worth $1.7 billion at list prices from Gulf carrier Qatar Airways. Analysts expect Middle Eastern and Asian airlines to dominate the buying as they seek to boost transport links for their booming economies. The Boeing deal came a day after Airbus unveiled plans to boost the range of its future competing A350, of which Qatar is the biggest customer.

Sunday, June 19, 2011

Paris air show - orders soar

Airbus faced the unexpected and daunting task on Monday of delivering a marketing blow to rival Boeing and maintaining momentum for a revamped jet with its two flagship planes grounded at the Paris Air Show. The European planemaker has targeted an order surge worth tens of billions of dollars, but was left reeling as the world's largest aviation event was jinxed by a series of mishaps including a taxiway collision involving the A380 superjumbo. The right-hand wing-tip of a test plane for the world's largest jetliner, with a wingspan of almost 80 meters (yards), scraped a building at Le Bourget airport on Sunday and was withdrawn from the air show's traditional flying displays.

A second aircraft, the delayed European A400M airlifter, was also withdrawn from air display after a gearbox problem but will be allowed to perform in a flypast when French President Nicolas Sarkozy inaugurates the biennial event on Monday. The A380 collision caused dismay hours after the arrival of its new rival Boeing's elongated 747-8 superjumbo which is showing its distinctive silhouette abroad for the first time. The latest version of the legendary 747 jumbo touched down in orange and red "sunrise" livery symbolizing the importance of Asia, whose economic growth is set to dominate aviation in coming years starting with this week's air show. Industry sources expect some sales of both the A380 and 747-8 during the June 20-26 event but the main joust for market share concerns narrow-body, medium-haul 150-seat planes.

The air show could bring two record deals on successive days as Airbus tries to woo buyers for a revamped A320neo with more efficient engines, saving airlines 15 percent in fuel costs. "We clearly believe in the business case and the orders you are going to see at the show are going to be astounding," said David Hess, chief executive of engine maker Pratt & Whitney. Buyers are already camped out in Paris hotels to negotiate the final details of major deals but are aware that Airbus has staked a lot on winning a slew of orders for the A320neo at the Paris show, and some are said to be digging in their heels. A $16 billion provisional deal from IndiGo to buy 180 A320neo passenger jets, first announced in January, was mired in further negotiations that could spill beyond the air show. The deal if finalized would set a record for the number of planes in one transaction. But sources say if all goes to plan it is set to be eclipsed by a 200-plane order being fine-tuned between Airbus and Malaysia's AirAsia.

Demand for aircraft is on a sharp rebound driven by demand from Asia's rapidly growing airports and the Middle East. "Those two markets will enjoy at least one-third if not more of the demand increase for global air traffic in the next decade," said Philip Toy, a managing director at Alix Partners. The Airbus A320neo has also benefited from airline concerns about fuel costs. Boeing said on Sunday it would decide by end-year whether to upgrade its 737 with new engines from about 2016, as Airbus has done, or build an all-new jet in 2019. "They will sell hundreds but it is hard to tell what is gross and what is net, what is a conversion from an earlier order. There are myriad complications," said Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia said of the A320neo.

Orders are likely to include a confirmation of an $8 billion 100-plane order from leasing giant ILFC and another plane order for both Airbus and Boeing planes another big lessor, GECAS. But it could be Boeing that grabs attention on day one of the show with a sale of 777 wide-body airplanes to Qatar Airways -- a reminder that the two planemakers are battling for market share on a second front after Airbus revamped its A350. Russia and China will flex their muscles as potential rivals to Airbus and Boeing, especially during a Tuesday visit by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and some analysts expect surprise sales. But Western planemakers say it will be some time before newcomers mount a serious challenge in civil aerospace.

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Airbus unveils Concept Plane


Airbus has unveiled a futuristic concept for a transparent plane that may be everyday air transport in 2050. With its see-through aircraft cabin, passengers of the future will get a window on the world as they fly through the sky. They will be able to see everything to the sides and in front of them.The concept cabin unveiled at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich, London, would be a bionic structure that 'mimics' the efficiency of the bird bone, claimed the company.It would provide strength where needed, and also allows for an intelligent' cabin wall membrane, which controls air temperature and can become transparent to give passengers open, panoramic views.The company believes that mid-century passengers might be able to enjoy a game of virtual golf or take part in interactive conferences, while the cabin 'identifies and responds' to travellers' needs.In the 'interactive zone' there are virtual pop-up projections taking passengers to whichever social scene they want to be in, from holographic gaming to virtual changing rooms for active shoppers.





The 'smart tech zone' is tailored towards the more functional-orientated passenger with what Airbus describes as 'a chameleon-style offering'. It aims to meet individual needs ranging from a simple to a complete luxury service, but all allowing 'you to continue life as if on the ground'. "Our research shows that passengers of 2050 will expect a seamless travel experience while also caring for the environment," the Daily Mail quoted Airbus engineering executive vice-president Charles Champion as saying. "The concept cabin is designed with that in mind, and shows that the journey can be as much a voyage of discovery as the destination," he added.




Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Thai Air places aircraft orders worth $3.9 billion with Airbus and Boeing

Thai Airways announced Monday that it would acquire 23 Airbus and 14 Boeing airplanes for about $3.9 billion to modernise its ageing fleet after a period of financial turbulence. The carrier said the deals, which have been approved by its board of directors, would enable it to grow profits and be among the top three leading airlines in Asia in terms of quality and service efficiency. The airline plans to buy six Boeing 777-300ER planes, four Airbus A350-900s and five A320-200s for a total of about $1.6 billion, for delivery between 2014 and 2017. It will also lease 22 aircraft, including eight Boeing 787 Dreamliners, to be delivered between 2012 and 2017, a company statement said. "Acquiring new aircraft made from lightweight and non-corrosive composite material to replace retiring aircraft will save fuel and maintenance costs," it added.

The company is bouncing back after a tough spell that saw it sink 21.3 billion baht ($702 million) in the red in 2008 owing to the global financial crisis, high fuel costs and political protests that temporarily shut Bangkok's airports. The carrier posted a net profit of 1.6 billion baht in 2010, up more than threefold compared with 2009 as revenue more than doubled. The airline faces increased competition from regional low-cost carriers such as Air Asia and last year announced plans to start its own budget airline in cooperation with Singapore's Tiger Airways. Currently Thai Airways operates a mixed fleet, including some ageing Boeing 747 jumbos and Airbus A300s, which are no longer being produced.

Thai Airways president Piyasvasti Amranand admitted in October that the carrier's planes were "pretty old" and said the company needed to move quickly given the backlog of orders facing Boeing and Airbus. The new orders are on top of a plan announced a year ago to take delivery of seven Airbus A330-300s medium-range aircraft and eight Boeing 777-300ER long-range planes by 2014 on lease.The group has delayed delivery of six Airbus A380s, now due to arrive starting from 2012, because of a shortage of cash. The launch of Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner, heralded as a new generation of highly fuel-efficient mid-sized aircraft, has been repeatedly delayed due to a string of technical mishaps. Delivery of the first 787s is now scheduled for the third quarter of 2011 to inaugural customer All Nippon Airways of Japan.

Hong Kong Airlines expanding its fleet with A380 orders

Hong Kong Airlines Ltd. will order Airbus A380s as it challenges larger neighbor Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. and adds flights in China, the world’s fastest- growing air-travel market. The carrier, controlled by the investment arm of China’s Hainan province government, will announce the deal at next week’s Paris Air Show, it said in a text-message reply to questions today. It didn’t elaborate on the number of superjumbos it will buy at the show, which starts June 20th. The world’s largest airliner may help Hong Kong Air compete with Cathay on long-haul routes and offset a looming capacity crunch at the city’s airport caused by delays in building a new runway. The carrier will be the third new A380 customer this year, following Skymark Airlines Inc. and Asiana Airlines Inc., as Airbus boosts sales among smaller Asian carriers. “It’s a good move for brand-building,” said Kelvin Lau, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Daiwa Capital Markets. “It’s quite difficult for newcomers to break into lucrative long-haul routes.”

Hong Kong Air also agreed to order 32 Boeing Co. 787s and six 777 freighters earlier this year to help expand. It had 30 Airbus A320s, 12 A330s and 15 A350s on order as of the end of May, according to the Toulouse, France-based planemaker’s website. The carrier and affiliate Hong Kong Express now operate 18 planes, according to their website. The airline expects to double passenger numbers to 4 million this year as it adds planes and taps China’s rising travel, President Yang Jianhong said in March. The carrier has a less than 10 percent share of Hong Kong’s outbound travel market, Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc said at the time. The airline will be the second in Greater China to order the A380 following China Southern Airlines Co. Airbus is due to deliver the first superjumbo to China Southern later this year. The planemaker has sold a total of 234 A380s, of which 49 have been delivered, as of the end of May, according to its website.

Orders for the A380 have been dominated by Middle East and Asia-Pacific carriers. Emirates Airline has placed orders for 90, making it the largest customer. Singapore Airlines Ltd. was the first carrier to fly the superjumbo on commercial services. Asiana, South Korea’s second-biggest carrier, signed up for six A380s in January. Skymark, a Japanese budget airline, confirmed an order for four the following month. Cathay Pacific has so far ruled out ordering A380s and is instead building its long-haul fleet with smaller planes. It ordered 15 Airbus A330-300s and 10 Boeing 777-300ERs in March, following an agreement for 30 A350s in August. “We’ll probably have another good look at big aircraft in the next one or two years,” Chief Executive Officer John Slosar said last week in Singapore at the International Air Transport Association’s annual general meeting.

Hong Kong Air is seeking to raise funds by selling a stake to private-equity investors ahead of an initial public offering that may raise as much as $1 billion, Yang said in March. The carrier had a net income of about HK$110 million ($14 million) in 2010, its first annual profit, and it may double that this year, he said. Hong Kong Airport will likely reach full capacity by about 2020 because of growing demand for flights into China, operator Airport Authority Hong Kong said earlier this month as public consultation on plans to build a third runway began. Passenger numbers at the airport may grow as much as 3.6 percent a year, reaching 105 million by 2030, according to estimates on its website. China’s international passenger numbers my rise 11 percent a year through 2014, about double the pace of the global market, according to the International Air Transport Association.

Friday, June 10, 2011

AirAsia could order upto 200 A320's



AirAsia could buy as many as 200 Airbus jets in a landmark deal shaping up to dominate the Paris Air Show, industry sources said. The deal is among the most keenly awaited in a recovering civil aviation sector, and could help to determine the success of the European planemaker's efforts to stymie a draft project by rival Boeing to design a new 150-200 seat aircraft. Under pressure from airlines to provide a cushion against high fuel costs, Airbus is marketing a new version of its best-selling A320 passenger jet with new engines which it says will save 15 percent in fuel bills starting from late 2015. Malaysia-based AirAsia has said it is considering buying at least 150 of the "A320neo" aircraft as the region's largest budget carrier expands in the face of high oil prices.

But industry sources told Reuters that the range of negotiations is higher than previously expected and could reach 200 planes, trumping a 180-plane provisional order from India's IndiGo as the industry's largest ever by number of aircraft. "They are talking about 150 to 200 aircraft," an industry source familiar with the negotiations said, asking not to be named. Such a deal would be worth $14 billion to $18 billion at list prices, depending on the exact model of aircraft involved, though big plane orders tend to generate significant discounts. The record for the largest Airbus deal by value is held by Emirates airline with a $22 billion purchase in 2007.

EADS  subsidiary Airbus declined to comment. A spokesperson for AirAsia said talks were continuing. Both sides hope to announce the deal at the Paris Air Show on June 20-26 but the size of the deal and its timing remain uncertain because of the sums involved, industry sources said. AirAsia founder Tony Fernandes has set his sights on doubling the size of the nine-year-old airline to rival Southwest Airlines' fleet of more than 500 jets. The airline has already ordered 175 of the original design of A320, of which 86 have yet to be delivered.

However in a sign that the Airbus deal should not be taken for granted, Fernandes wrote on Twitter on Friday that he was asked to meet aircraft manufacturer Bombardier in Montreal. The Canadian company wants to challenge Airbus and Boeing with its CSeries planes. Fernandes has regularly broken the secretive protocol of aircraft negotiations by tweeting about the talks. Boeing is mulling whether to follow Airbus down the "re-engining" route by tinkering with its 737 passenger jet or making more revolutionary changes with an all-new plane offering even bigger fuel savings to cash-tight airlines from 2020.

"The A320neo appears to have good traction with current A320 fliers, particularly low cost carriers," said Rob Stallard, aviation analyst at RBC Capital Markets, who predicts around 300 orders for the $90-million jetliner by the end of the year. "Even if Boeing goes ahead with a clean-sheet new narrowbody with entry into service around 2020, we think most Airbus narrowbody customers will stick with the neo due to the high cost of switching providers," he added. Airline executives say a key factor for Boeing will be whether Airbus manages to convert any of its major traditional clients, especially U.S.-based ones such as Southwest.

The AirAsia order, if confirmed, could also give a much-needed boost to transatlantic consortium CFM International. Industry sources say the Cincinnati-based company is the front-runner to win a lucrative contract for the airplanes' engines, breaking a drought of orders after rival Pratt & Whitney scooped up most orders so far for the A320neo. CFM is a joint venture between General Electric and France's Safran. Pratt & Whitney has developed an engine called the Geared Turbofan with a change of architecture for the narrowbody 737 and A320 market, the largest slice of the commercial aerospace industry worth $1.7 trillion in plane sales over 20 years.

Thursday, June 9, 2011

Indian Aviation expanding rapidly

India's largest private airline Jet Airways and budget carrier GoAir are in line to order $6.5 billion worth of Airbus aircraft at the forthcoming Paris Air Show, The Economic Times reported on Thursday. The financial daily quoted Jet chairman Naresh Goyal as saying that they were buying 10 A330 aircraft worth $2.5 billion as part of plans to expand its routes in Europe. GoAir is looking to order at least 50 narrow-body A320 jets worth $4 billion for short-haul domestic routes, which will be brought into service as soon as next year, the report said, quoting two sources familiar with the matter.

Both orders were still being negotiated but were in the final stages, the newspaper added, quoting unnamed sources within Airbus. A Jet Airways spokeswoman in New Delhi told AFP that she had no details on the exact nature of the orders, as Goyal was speaking on the sidelines of the recent International Air Transport Association annual general meeting in Singapore. But she added: "We're asking for just a few (aircraft) because that's in line and keeping with our growth plan."

No one was immediately available for comment at GoAir. The Economic Times said budget airline IndiGo would also push ahead with a previously announced order for 180 A320 aircraft with an estimated value of $15 billion, after signing a memorandum of understanding with Airbus last year. Air India, the state-run national carrier, is planning to take 10 A330s and 16 A320s on a rental basis, it added. Aviation has taken off in India in recent years but private airlines have been grappling with rising fuel prices and a slowdown in economic growth that has hit business.

Monday, June 6, 2011

Kingfisher Airlines optimistic about growth



India's Kingfisher Airlines is looking to lease both wide-body and narrow-body aircraft to meet an unanticipated surge in demand as the domestic economy recovers more quickly than expected, the company's chairman, Vijay Mallya, said on Monday. Mallya also told reporters on the sidelines of the International Air Transport Association's annual meeting in Singapore that the company had revived a plan to sell Global Depository Receipts, taking higher oil prices into calculation. Asked if Kingfisher's current capacity was enough to cater to the projected increase in demand, he said: "Not quite, that is why we are looking for leased capacity.

"Kingfisher at one time had several aircraft that were on order from Airbus for delivery in 2010 and 2011. During the 2008-2009 crisis, I actually postponed the delivery of those aircraft to 2012 and 2013," Mallya said. "So right now we are looking for capacity, but our own new deliveries will start in about 18 months." He said he was looking to lease both narrow-body and wide-body aircraft. "We have been experiencing for the last six months unprecedented load factors, which I have never seen in the last six years," Mallya said. "We are running at mid to high 80 percent on every flight, which is extremely healthy."

According to its website, Kingfisher has 66 aircraft, mostly Airbus jets and ATR turbo-prop variants. It has more than 125 planes on order. Loss-making Kingfisher, India's second-largest airline by market share, has restructured its debt by converting almost INR12 billion rupees (USD$268 million) of loans into equity. Its current debt stands at about INR60 billion rupees. Last month, it reported a net loss of INR10.27 billion rupees in the fiscal year ending March 31, versus a loss of INR16.47 billion rupees the year before. But it had positive EBITDA amounting to INR1.4 billion rupees, the company says. "We reported significantly improved numbers and EBITDA profit for the first time. This is a sign of things to come," Mallya said.

He said the company had also revived a proposal to sell GDRs of USD$250 million - USD$350 million, but gave few details. "We had an excellent roadshow for our GDR in January and early February this year and we presented a compelling business plan." He said the plan assumed crude oil at USD$90 per barrel. "The minute crude oil prices started going up to USD$120 plus per barrel, prospective investors asked us to rework our business plans, which we did."

The flamboyant Mallya, who controls the United Breweries Group, owns a Grand Prix motor racing team and a team in India's cricket league, said Kingfisher's growth should be enhanced as it joins the oneworld airline alliance, which also includes Cathay Pacific, British Airways and Qantas. "The opportunities to leverage this alliance are huge," he said, adding that Kingfisher would become a fully operational member by 2012. "We see this as being a contributor of about 5-6 percent of enhanced revenue to us."

He said Kingfisher was continuing to lobby the government to allow foreign airlines to take stakes in Indian carriers. "Airlines in India must raise capital and the opportunity to raise capital from foreign airlines must not be excluded and that's why we will continue to request the government of India to reconsider its foreign direct investment policy." Kingfisher flies to eight international destinations and to more than 50 towns and cities in India. Its fleet of turboprop aircraft will help it to respond to the pattern of wealth creation in India, Mallya added. "There is a lot of wealth in tier-2 and tier-3 cities that is being created," he said. "It is no longer a situation where wealth in India is restricted to the big metro cities, so it offers a huge amount of opportunity. "Kingfisher is well positioned because it has a large number of ATR aircraft which are ideal to service the emerging demand in tier-2 and tier-3 cities," he said.

Wednesday, June 1, 2011

Air France A330 crash report



The Air France airliner that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009 was out of control for four minutes, investigators said, in a report raising questions about how crew handled a "stall alarm" blaring out in the cabin. Information gleaned from black boxes, and recovered almost two years after the disaster killed 228 people, confirmed that speed-readings in the Airbus cockpit had gone haywire, believed to be linked to the icing of speed sensors outside the jet. As Air France pilots fought for control, the doomed A330 dropped 38,000 feet, rolling left to right, its engines flat out but its wings unable to grab enough air to keep flying.

The plane crashed on June 1, 2009, en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. Black boxes stopped recording at 0214 GMT. France's BEA crash investigation agency said in a detailed chronology of the crash that commands from the controls of the 32-year-old junior pilot on board had pulled the nose up as the aircraft became unstable and generated an audible stall warning. Aviation industry sources told reporters that this action went against the normal procedures which call for the nose to be lowered in response to an alert that the plane was about to stall.

This type of aerodynamic stall is nothing to do with a stall in the engines, both of which kept working as crew requested. "A stall is the moment at which a plane stops flying and starts falling," said David Learmount, operations and safety editor at the British aviation publication Flight International. An aircraft industry safety consultant said the standard guidance in the Airbus pilot manual called in this event for the pilot to lower the nose by pushing the control stick forward.

"The BEA is now going to have to analyze and get to bottom of how crew handled this event," said Paul Hayes, safety director at Ascend Aviation, a UK-based aviation consultancy. "The big question in my mind is why did the pilot flying (the aircraft) appear to continue to pull the nose up," he said. French investigators said the emergency began with the autopilot disengaging itself two and a half hours into the flight and the junior pilot, who had been in control at take-off, picked up manually and saying "I have control".

The autopilot appears to have responded to a loss of reliable airspeed information. This was accompanied moments later by the disembodied voice of a recorded "stall" alert. It is what happened next that is likely to fuel most theories on what preceded the crash, but Air France and its main pilots union insisted faulty speed probes were the root cause. In a passage likely to attract particular scrutiny, the BEA said the pilot "maintained" the nose-up command despite fresh stall warnings 46 seconds into the four-minute emergency.

"The inputs made by the pilot flying were mainly nose-up," the report added. The Airbus jet climbed 3,000 feet to 38,000 feet despite the crew having decided earlier against a climb, and then began a dramatic descent, with the youngest pilot handing control to the second most senior pilot a minute before impact. The captain returned after "several attempts" to call him back to the cockpit but was not at the controls in the final moments, according to information gleaned from black boxes.

By the time the 58-year-old returned, just over a minute into the emergency, the aircraft was in serious trouble: plunging at 10,000 feet a minute with its nose pointing up 15 degrees and at too high an angle to the air to recapture lift. The BEA did not provide extracts of the transcript for the last minute before the jet hit the water with its nose up. It promised a fuller interim report which could say more about the causes of the crash in July.

Monday, May 16, 2011

Data recovered from the Air France A330 FDR

Investigators trying to determine why an Air France plane crashed mysteriously two years ago have recovered the complete contents of the flight data recorder and the last two hours of cockpit conversation, they announced Monday.It will take several weeks to analyze the data, French air accident experts said.All 228 people aboard Air France 447 were killed when the Airbus A330 belly-flopped into the ocean June 1, 2009, in stormy weather. The cause of the crash is still not known.

Discovering that there was data on the recorders "is excellent news. It is really going to help us work out what happened on that plane," said Martine Del Bono, spokeswoman for France's Bureau of Investigation and Analysis (BEA). The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were found at the beginning of May after an unprecedented series of submarine searches of a mountain range 3,900 meters (12,700 feet) under the ocean. They were brought to the surface and taken to Paris by ship and plane.

The investigators also recovered two bodies from the fuselage -- after finding only about 50 bodies in the days immediately after the crash.

They will not bring more bodies up from the ocean if they cannot identify the two they already have, they said Thursday. Those two bodies are being examined to see if there is enough DNA to identify them, investigators said, adding that they hope to have results by Wednesday. If they can identify the remains, they will consider bringing up other bodies from the wreckage. The bulk of the plane was located earlier this year and contains many more human remains, according to investigators.

Recovering more bodies will be a difficult task, with miles of cable required to bring each one up over a period of three hours, they said. Investigators also brought an engine and an avionics bay containing computers to the surface, they said. The pilots of Air France 447 lost contact with air traffic controllers on June 1, 2009, while flying across an area of the Atlantic known for severe turbulence, officials said. But exactly what caused the plane to plunge into the ocean remains a mystery.

The plane slammed into the water while en route from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to Paris, falling so fast that air masks did not have time to deploy. The fuselage was discovered in April with bodies still inside, investigators said.Some relatives of those who died have expressed reservations about remains being brought to the surface.

Last month Robert Soulas, head of a support group for families of flight victims, said: "For me, personally I would like to leave the bodies of my children, my two children, on the seabed." Other relatives have called for the bodies to be recovered.

Sunday, May 1, 2011

Air France crash - black box located.

Investigators have located and recovered the memory unit of the flight data recorder of a 2009 Air France flight - a remarkable deep-sea discovery they hope will explain why the aircraft went down in a remote area of the mid-Atlantic, killing all 228 people on board. France's air accident investigation agency BEA said a search by a submarine probing some 3,900 meters (12,800 feet) below the ocean's surface located and recovered the unit Sunday morning. The unit is now aboard the ship Ile de Sein, the statement said.

The statement also included photos of the recorder - a red cylinder partially buried in sand on the sea floor. Judging from the photos, the unit appeared to be in good condition. Last month, the agency said the undersea search had identified the "chassis" that had held the recorder, but said the memory unit was still missing. The flight data recorder stores data from the flight. Another so-called "black box" records cockpit conversations.

Investigators hope Sunday's remarkable discovery will allow them to determine what caused the June 1, 2009 crash of Flight 447 from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to the French capital, Paris. The aircraft slammed into the Atlantic northeast of Brazil after running into an intense high-altitude thunderstorm. Automatic messages sent by the Airbus 330's computers showed it was receiving false air speed readings from sensors known as pitot tubes. Investigators have said the crash was likely caused by a series of problems, and not just sensor error.

The crash site was so remote and in such a deep area of the Atlantic that the bulk of the wreckage was only recently discovered, thanks to a deep-sea search. Experts have said that without retrieving the voice and data recorders there would be almost no chance of determining what caused the crash - the worst disaster in Air France's history.